CO2 and Temperature

sea level post glacial
Global warming/cooling cycle happened over and over before human. Glacial maximum was 23k years ago(kya) and warming. China/Taiwan/Japan was connected. By 15kyp sea started to rise and near sea level began to submerge and people/pottery spread to world.  Sea level already rose 120m/400feet by around 6kya and compare to this it is almost flat for 6ky after.In last 4500 things like extreme high or low temperature caused many civilization failure.
The solution is birth control but greedy globalist and religion are against it since it reduced potential money.
CO2 level today is already way more than peaks of last half million years, but  temperature is flat for past 18 years.  I think 102 year sun cycle(related to Maunder minimum) peaked about 2000, currently weak 11 year peak too.  If it was just from sun, temp should drop until 2020.  If temp is flat then it is sign of CO2 impact.
There are many things affecting than included in past simulations.   Also NEW 2015 discoveries of deep sea and desert carbon sinks were NOT accounted on simulation of past. 400 million years ago CO2 was 15 times higher. NASA revealed Antarctic ice gains.  Ice melting releases CO2 too.  Carbon capture is waste of energy and money unless co2 is actually used for something useful.
You can think of co2 is like a fertilizer that reaches saWturation and increasing it makes very little yield difference.  Impact of slower increase CO2 is very minimal, but extreme weather is real and we still need to use less fossil fuel. Pollutions kill millions and we don’t want $500/barrel oil.
2015-11-28
I came up with other factors that are more significant.
1) CO2 causes hotter hemisphere in summer and cause extra evaporation. This probably create more cloud for extreme weather and block sun for other hemisphere for extreme cold winter. This explains antarctic ice increase.

temperature 100 years

temperature is flat for past 18 years.

Graph almost look like sine wave…So 102 year cycle seems playing major part.

 

co2-levels 100 years

It seems co2 graph fits 1910-2000 and ancient time well, but it does not fit well for last 4500 years range.

 

 

gtemps

Temperatures were higher 1100bc and 1300 ad even though co2 was way way below.

CO2-10000-years

human population 2000

Blue=temperature, Red=CO2
Blue=temperature, Red=CO2

Temp CO2 sea level
more earthquake and volcano

2015-11-28
I came up with other factors that are more significant.
1) CO2 causes hotter hemisphere in summer and cause extra evaporation. This probably create more cloud for extreme weather and block sun for other hemisphere for extreme cold winter. This explains antarctic ice increase.
2) This means more difference in temperature of earth crust and thus move potential movement due to temperature dependent size changes.
3) At certain point, cloud causes more cooling and combine with volcanic sulfuric acid and sun cycle, earth have “straw that broke camel’s back” effect and start to cool.
4) When crust start to cool it shrink and pressures magma inside and increase the chances of eruption.

 

 Older stuff just in case I left out something

Global warming happens after glacial maximum 23k years ago(kya)like many cycles of past.  Sea level already rose 120m/400feet around 7kya. This put hydro pressure to sea bed causing less friction for continental plate so it slide faster which causes increase in volcanic activity and earthquakes.  Volcanic winter causes ice age again. We are close.
Warming happens with things like deforestation, asphalt, and nuclear reactors heat earth…. even solar panel absolve more than sand. Irony is pollution reflect sun light lol.  It also cloud seed so changes weather pattern.
Looking at a graph, CO2 level today is already about twice as peeks of last half million years.  There is correlation between ice melting and co2 BUT it is not 100% certain that co2 caused ice melting or vice versa or something else causing both.  For example, ice melting today is causing release of co2 as well as other gases.  Also NEW 2015 discoveries of deep sea and desert carbon sinks were NOT accounted on simulation of past. Invasive earthworm in North America is eating up organic matter fast thus generating co2.
Even if world completely stop using fossil fuel, sea level will continue to rise.. NASA revealed Antarctic ice gains.  Things like deforestation/asphalt/nuclear power releases heat/etc. heat too.  So does increased volcanic activity(including underwater.)
“mini ice-age” cause by low sun activity cycle of Maunder minimum is also possible too.  This can cause drought to some area and long freezing condition.
There is man made components in global warming, but bottom line is there is ALWAYS warming after glacial maximum. There’s long term sun cycle, 11 year cycle, CO2, and comet.  So expect dry/drought in summer and longer harsher winter and extreme weather.  Extreme weather is not going change too much unless CO2 level are drastically reduced, which cannot happen without nuclear fusion power plants or population reduction.  What really needed is birth control but religion and globalist are against it since it reduced potential money.
Other than that, there’s more earthquake and volcano activity due to ice melting and increase hydro pressure due to water rising in equator.  Higher volcanic activity traditionally block the sun and cool the planet, but co2 might keep temperature higher than normal.
Due to reduced sunspot, there can already be low sun cycle too.
Google my blog “real7777 temperature” for graphs etc.
I think carbon capture is waste of energy and money unless co2 is actually used for something useful.  Best way is plant plants, seagrass, seaweed, and other things that photosynthesis, etc.  Iron release on ocean is risky due to potential bacterial growth.
Things like deforestation, asphalt, and nuclear reactors heat earth too.

2015-11-27
Things like solar panel reflect less than sand.  Wind/tide energy generation causes reduction in circulation(reverse of fan in room) thus it is likely to change weather pattern.  Perhaps polar ice increase is due to this.  Even nuclear plants generate heat and typically use water heat exchange.  Invasive earthworm is converting more organic matter to co2 as well as reducing plants.

2015-11-04
Human intervention with things like spraying mists, solar farm, wind farm, etc. might affect weather pattern.
2014-12-15 7:20pm
I just come up with mechanics of sea level increase and increase in earthquake and volcanic activity.  Japanese data shows decoupling and acceleration for tectonic movement.  Basically reduction in static friction.
What is happening is two overlapping plate with high pressure moving toward each other.  Basically Japan on top and pacific ocean floor as bottom plate. As sea rises, pacific plate get push down and less pressure upward pressure from pacific plate thus less static friction and faster movement.
Picture this by placing two open hand in front of you face down and left hand fingers on top of right hand nails and apply pressure which will resist hands moving toward each other inward, imagine some force that places right hand down, it will make inward movement easier.
google “real7777 wordpress volcano”

5 thoughts on “CO2 and Temperature

  1. real7777 December 1, 2015 / 9:07 pm

    2015-11-28
    I came up with other factors that are more significant.
    1) CO2 causes hotter hemisphere in summer and cause extra evaporation. This probably create more cloud for extreme weather and block sun for other hemisphere for extreme cold winter. This explains antarctic ice increase.
    2) This means more difference in temperature of earth crust and thus move potential movement due to temperature dependent size changes.
    3) At certain point, cloud causes more cooling and combine with volcanic sulfuric acid and sun cycle, earth have “straw that broke camel’s back” effect and start to cool.
    4) When crust start to cool it shrink and pressures magma inside and increase the chances of eruption.
    2015-11-04
    Human intervention with things like spraying mists, solar farm, wind farm, etc. might affect weather pattern.
    2014-12-15 7:20pm
    I just come up with mechanics of sea level increase and increase in earthquake and volcanic activity. Japanese data shows decoupling and acceleration for tectonic movement. Basically reduction in static friction.
    What is happening is two overlapping plate with high pressure moving toward each other. Basically Japan on top and pacific ocean floor as bottom plate. As sea rises, pacific plate get push down and less pressure upward pressure from pacific plate thus less static friction and faster movement.
    Picture this by placing two open hand in front of you face down and left hand fingers on top of right hand nails and apply pressure which will resist hands moving toward each other inward, imagine some force that places right hand down, it will make inward movement easier.
    google “real7777 wordpress volcano”

  2. real7777 December 12, 2015 / 12:42 am

    I came up with more factors. I sea level rise around equator caused little more mass around equator. I just re-read that such will cause slow down in earth’s rotation.
    My new discoveries:
    1) It will make sea closer to moon/sun etc.
    2)Slowdown will make tide stronger by allowing more time for tide to move plus stronger gravity
    From my volcano post “As for volcanic activity in Hawaii. It is like a water bed(plastic case being pacific plate) with hole. When more pressure from higher water level squeeze lava from a hole(water from water bed).”
    3) Secondary effect of under water plate sinking and pressure will raise other plate.
    4) Less tidal forces to under water portion as compare to land plate.

  3. real7777 January 6, 2016 / 3:03 am

    Paris at the COP21
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    Goal 12. Ensure sustainable consumption and production patterns
    Goal 13. Take urgent action to combat climate change and its impacts
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    Goal 15. Protect, restore and promote sustainable use of terrestrial ecosystems, sustainably manage forests, combat desertification, and halt and reverse land degradation and halt biodiversity loss
    Goal 16. Promote peaceful and inclusive societies for sustainable development, provide access to justice for all and build effective, accountable and inclusive institutions at all levels
    Goal 17. Strengthen the means of implementation and revitalize the global partnership for sustainable development

  4. real7777 February 2, 2016 / 9:06 am

    Stats Tampering Puts NOAA in Hot Water
    Image: Stats Tampering Puts NOAA in Hot Water Environmental data research, Pasco, Wash. (AP)

    By Larry Bell | Monday, 01 Feb 2016 10:03 AM
    http://www.newsmax.com/LarryBell/CATO-DQA-MIT-NOAA/2016/02/01/id/712153/

    Approximately 300 people including scientists, engineers and other experts, about half with doctorate degrees, have petitioned U.S. House Science Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, to carefully investigate suspiciously overheated climate temperature book-cooking by the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

    Signers included 25 climate or atmospheric scientists, 23 geologists, 51 engineers, 74 physicists, and 12 economists.

    One was a Nobel laureate physicist, two were Apollo astronauts . . . and another was me.

    Referring to a 2015 NOAA study purporting to having eliminated a nearly two-decade-long “hiatus” of flat global temperatures, the signatories asked Smith’s committee to ensure that federal agencies observe scientific Data Quality Act (DQA) guidelines established by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget.

    The DQA requires agencies, including NOAA, to “ensure and maximize the quality, objectivity, utility, and integrity of information, including statistical information.”
    NOAA’s adjustments to previous ocean temperatures between 1998 and 2012 made recent global temperature changes appear more than twice warmer than the original records showed.

    This was accomplished by throwing out global-coverage satellite-sensed sea surface measurements taken since the late 1970s — the best data available — and upwardly adjusting spotty and unreliable hit-and-miss temperature readings taken from ocean-going vessels which present well-recognized problems.

    Big errors are introduced because readings taken from the cooling-water intake-tubes of various ships record measure temperatures at different ocean depths. Varying amounts of conduction from different vessel infrastructures and daily sun conditions skew temperatures as well.

    Writing in the well-known science blog “Watts Up With That,” CATO’s Center for the Study of Science Director Patrick Michaels, Assistant Director Paul Knappenberger, and Distinguished Senior Fellow-MIT Professor Emeritus of Meteorology Richard Lindzen agree that the lax standard of NOAA’s study should prompt questions by members of the scientific community.

    They note: “As has been acknowledged by numerous scientists, the engine intake data are clearly contaminated by heat conduction from the structure, and as such, never intended for scientific use.”

    In addition to tweaking recent temperature readings to be higher, NOAA’s revisions to earlier original data have consistently made past temps cooler.

    As climate expert Bob Tisdale and meteorologist Anthony Watts observe on the same WUWT blog site, “To manufacture warming during the hiatus, NOAA adjusted the pre-hiatus data downward” to show even more recent warming.
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    Incidentally, NOAA’s “corrections” to suggest warming between a huge 1998 El Niño and another big one last year contradict data provided by other wider-coverage and higher quality measurements.
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    A large integrated network of Argo ocean buoys operated by the British Oceanographic Data Center in combination with satellite-enhanced data reveal no statistical warming.

    And even if all those adjustments were right, the warming trend would still be significantly lower than was projected by the collection of climate models cited in the most recent U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report.

    In light of the massive El Niño there should be no surprise that 2015 showed elevated temperatures — about a quarter of a degree Fahrenheit higher than the previous year.

    This is similar to what happened with the El Niño in 1998. Also don’t be surprised to see it soon followed by a La Niña cooling. Although not well understood, there is no evidence linking these naturally-occurring reversals of Pacific trade winds and deep-ocean currents to any man-made influences.

    Michaels, Knappenberger, Lindzen, along with most of us, recognize that global temperatures have been warming in fits-and-starts since the “little ice age” ended in the mid-1800s.

    They urge us to keep in mind: “It is important to recognize that the central issue of human-caused climate change is not a question of whether it is warming or not, but rather a question of how much. And to this relevant question, the answer has been, and remains, that the warming is taking place at a much slower rate than is being projected.”

    House Science Committee Chairman Smith has expressed a commitment to look into concerns that the real purpose of NOAA’s report was to push President Obama’s political agenda.

    He is not alone in noting that the non-peer-reviewed study appeared to be rushed for release conveniently in advance of U.N. Climate Change Conference held in Paris last December.
    As reported by the Daily Caller News Foundation, Smith said: “It is this committee’s oversight role to ensure that federal science agencies are transparent and accountable to the taxpayers who fund their research.” He added: “Americans are tired of research conducted behind closed doors where they only see cherry-picked conclusions, not the facts.”

    Referring to the pleading submitted by the 300 petitioners, he responded that “This letter shows that hundreds of respected scientists and experts agree that NOAA’s efforts to alter historical temperature data deserve serious scrutiny.”

    After all, isn’t serious scrutiny a prerequisite for all trusted science?

    Larry Bell is an endowed professor of space architecture at the University of Houston where he founded the Sasakawa International Center for Space Architecture (SICSA) and the graduate program in space architecture. He is the author of “Scared Witless: Prophets and Profits of Climate Doom”(2015) and “Climate of Corruption: Politics and Power Behind the Global Warming Hoax” (2012). Read more of his reports — Click Here Now.

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  5. real7777 September 14, 2016 / 11:55 pm

    Published on CNS News (http://www.cnsnews.com)

    Four Studies Find ‘No Observable Sea-Level Effect’ From Man-Made Global Warming

    (CNSNews.com) – Ten years after former Vice President Al Gore warned in his 2006 Oscar-winning film [1], An Inconvenient Truth [2], that if nothing was done to stop man-made global warming, melting Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets could raise sea levels by up to 20 feet, four peer-reviewed scientific studies found “no observable sea-level effect of anthropogenic global warming.”

    “It is widely assumed that sea levels have been rising in recent decades largely in response to anthropogenic global warming,” Kenneth Richard writes at NoTricksZone [3]. “However, due to the inherently large contribution of natural oscillatory influences on sea level fluctuations, this assumption lacks substantiation….

    “Scientists who have recently attempted to detect an anthropogenic signal in regional sea level rise trends have had to admit that there is ‘no observable sea-level effect of anthropogenic global warming’,” Richard points out, listing four peer-reviewed studies published this year that have all come to the same conclusion.

    In a paper published [4] on May 18, Hindumathi Palanisamy [5] at the Laboratoire d’Etudes en Geophysique et Oceanograhie Spatiales [6] (LEGOS) in Toulouse, France and her co-authors explain that “sea level is an integrated climate parameter that involves interactions of all components of the climate system (oceans, ice sheets, glaciers, atmosphere, and land water reservoirs) on a wide range of spatial and temporal scales….

    “Since 1993, sea level variations have been measured precisely by satellite altimetry. They indicated a faster sea level rise of 3.3 mm/yr over 1993-2015. Owing to their global coverage, they also reveal a strong regional seal level variability that sometimes is several times greater than the global mean sea level rise,” the researchers state.

    “Considering the highly negative impact of sea level rise for society, monitoring sea level change and understanding its causes are henceforth high priorities.”

    Comparing sea level changes between 1950 and 2009 in the Indian Ocean, South China and Caribbean Seas, Palanisamy’s team found that the “tropical Pacific displays the highest magnitude of sea level variations.”

    However, by studying “sea level spatial trend patterns in the tropical Pacific and attempting to eliminate signal corresponding to the main internal climate mode, we show that the remaining residual sea level trend pattern does not correspond to externally forced anthropogenic sea level signal.”

    Another group of scientists led by Mohammad Hadi Bordbar [7] from the Helmholtz Centre for Ocean Research [8] in Kiel, Germany also concluded in a study published in April [9] that the recent sea level trends in the tropical Pacific “are still within the range of long-term internal decadal variability.

    “Further, such variability strengthens in response to enhanced greenhouse gas concentrations, which may further hinder detection of anthropogenic climate signals in that region,” the study found.

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